I think the issue is the ACCEPTANCE of the gay lifestyle as normal with the expectation that the military would protect the individual from those who disagree and more importantly provide them with the same rights and privileges afforded to heterosexuals.If, they want to serve their country and want people to stay out of their bedroom , isn't that what "don't ask don't tell" already provides. .|||If your gay you can serve in the military.
The military wont ask if your gay, and you will not be able to go around and advertise that fact.
Who you prefer to have sex with has nothing to do with your job in the military.
When a gay person makes this an issue by disrupting good order and discipline then they are subjected to military law, just like any other person in the military.
If you want to be gay ON YOUR OWN TERMS, then the military is not the place for you.
If you want to serve your country and are willing to sacrifice some degree of personal freedom and choice then the military is a good place for you.
The "issue" of "acceptance" of the gay life style is not the job of the military, nor should it be.
Deal with it....|||Doesn't really matter. It's a tough job, somebody's gotta do it. I don't see why sexual orientation has anything to do with it, other than it might be a distraction.|||As long as they dont hit on me or touch me in a sexual manner, I couldnt care less if they joined.|||I'm Gay and retired from the Army. It was a privilege to serve and I wasn't there for romance. I would like to see the penalty for being Gay or Lesbian eliminated. At times, the paranoia
interfered with my duty performance.|||Since when should homosexuality matter? What people do in their own bedroom is their business. Not mine. Plus, they should be awarded the same rights across the board whether it be serving in the military or marriage. A man and a woman can marry but it just seems unfair and discriminating that 2 men or 2 women can't. Homosexuals are people too. Everyone should enjoy equal rights.|||There are gay people in the military. But as far as open, I think its good not to disclose to ANYONE youre gay and in the military. People come to the military from all parts of the country. Believe it or not some people have never seen a black person, gay person, or even showered every day. Recruiters aren't allowed to ask about sexual orientation. For "gay rights" supporters like you, this should be a good thing because it gives gays the right to serve without fear of becoming an outsider.
As far as rights, they have the same rights as any other person serving. The get insurance coverage, GI bill, extra pay for knowing languages, different skills, etc. If you're asking for gays to be allowed to show affection in public around military personnel, youre way out line. Strait people aren't even allowed to do that in uniform.|||I've been in the Navy for ten years now and can remember when people were freaking out about women on combat ships. We got used to it and I think if they did allow homosexuals to serve it would be a little painful at first but they'd be fine. I had a guy on my last ship who we didn't have to ask, and he didn't have to tell. He was so gay it was like a bad stereo type, and at first we were uncomfortable but he turned out to be a good ship mate and a reliable Sailor.|||"openly" is a loose term. If they "openly" displayed their personal affairs they would be out.
it's about keeping your personal lifestyle personal. Nobody should ask you and you shouldn't be going around telling.
rather you are straight or homosexual. your military interactions should be in a machine like fashion.
Members "should" care less what you do at home or with your personal affairs.|||first, the gay lifestyle is not normal. particularly if you believe in evolution. other than the "normal" thing, who cares except the guy/girl in the showers with him/her. they do not have unisex showers, specifically because of the sexual thing. i guess we should have gay showers and that would eliminate the biggest issue.|||that is both atonishing and ignorant of the issue, don't ask don't tell is a terrible policy and offended to people who serve our country.|||If they want to sacrifice their lives to protect my freedom I thank them and honor their wishes. In my opinion, it would be foolish to do otherwise.|||I could honestly care less. If they want to be gay, than hey, just don't hit on me and we're cool. And anyone who has been in the military or deployed has at one time been too close to another man.|||Leslie's position is pretty much the same as mine.
Another issue is how do they decide who rooms with who.
Are you going to room a gay with a straight or lesbian with a straight? That would be no different then if I was to have roomed with a women. I would have loved it, she would have hated it.|||I couldn't care less. As long as they don't hit go around pushing themselves onto other people (which 99.9% of the time they don't) then it shouldn't matter. Case closed.|||It doesn't matter, nothing about your job in the military inquires about your sexuality or lifestyle. You do your job like everyone else and that is it. All branches of service promote the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. What that really means is, you cannot ask someone about it, and you don't have to listen to them going into detail about it. It is working well so far.
Clinton made it possible for individuals with alternate lifestyles to serve in the military. He also came up with the 10-20-life gun laws. He was the man...|||May be our gay people can help us use Pyshco warfare tactics on the enemy. I don't mind anyone fighting for our country it is a nobel cause and gays should be not only be allowed but they should be encouraged to join the Army and fight. I would whole heartedly suport the idea of our military activley recruiting in the gay community.
Stand up Gay people and enlist to serve your country.|||Well I think it's rediculous that thousands of men and women are denied the right to "serve their country" based on the sexual orientation. The Pentagon can't complain about not having enough soldiers for our stupid wars and then kick people out for not living the ideal "christian lifestyle." And to Bryan H, evolution has nothing to do with it. If anything, evolution would be more on the side of the "gay lifestyle", because numerous species (including very intelligent dolphins) have commited same-sex acts.|||I think don't ask don't tell is a good policy. They aren't saying you can't be gay, they are just saying if you are don't go around telling everyone. They won't ask if you are gay... I don't see the problem with this... why is it that gay people feel they should just be able to tell the world and we should have to just accept they are gay and proud. When homosexuality goes against many peoples personal beliefs so you can't force people to accept it. or to even want to know about it. And considering you live and shower together during basic i think it is best to keep the unit together so people's personal beliefs are constantly getting in the way.|||mrsbratt nailed it on the head with 'distraction'. That's the problem right there. It's a distraction no one needs or wants. Military is conservative by nature and those who serve tend to share conservative beliefs. If soldiers can't come together as a cohesive unit then that can be fatal in combat situations.|||yes, don't ask don't tell works just fine for the millitary. as long as i don't know the guy i work with is gay i can't have a problem with it. i don't understand what the problem with the policy is.|||we have women who serve in the military. that doesn't mean she can't do her job because she might sleep with some guy or look funny at him.|||It's not as often a bunch of guys shower together anymore anyway. I know if I'm filthy and need a shower and ones there, I don't care who sees my junk or dirty butt.|||I FEEL THEY WILL BE DISCHARGED|||I would not like it. We share showers together in basic, and at NTC. I would not like showering in front of a strange man or a lesbian. I am an E-6 now so I do not live in the barracks anymore, but when I did I would not of wanted a lesbian for a room mate. Also, it goes against Army values.|||Totally wrong. Of course I believe that that lifestyle is immoral, but then sex outside marriage is anyway. The military tries not to let anyone with serious mental problems enlist or be commissioned. Or that would cause confusion or problems in the ranks. And don't tell me they wouldn't try to come on to straight soldiers. This is regardless of whether the hs is male or female.|||The 'gay lifestyle' is not normal by any standards except their own. That being said, there is no reason why they should not be able to openly serve in the military. In all honesty, I believe that unit cohesion would be stronger if the truth of matter is known. You have to be able to trust the person next to you, how can you do that if they are hiding something?
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